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Regular Council Meeting August 9, 2021 Page 4 City Manager Grayson Path said at the July 12 meeting it was agreed upon to engage consultant Dan Edmonds. He said the ordinance set out procedures and rules for appointing the Charter Review Commission, and that Mr. Edmonds was present to answer any questions. Mr. Edmonds explained that normally he comes into a project well before an ordinance and commission is appointed and if he had come into the project earlier, he would recommend adoption of the ordinance as written. He recommended a commission of fifteen laypersons. Mr. Edmonds recommended that they not have former Council Members, nor former employees on the Commission. He said he had nothing against former Council Members or city employees but explained they tended to shadow over laypersons on the Commission. He also recommended that each Council Member select two members and that the Mayor select three. Mr. Path said Mr. Edmonds had made recommendations but that Council could changes those. Council Member Knox said when they appointed their committee, they had selected some strong individuals and she thought they would each have a voice. Council Member Pilgrim ingiured of Mr. Edmonds how long he had been in this business, and Mr. Edmonds said he had been consulting,.for twenty-two g years. Council Member Pilgrim said he was absent ,when Ms. ave her Ellis recommendation and that he supported Mr. Edmonds' recommendations. Council Member Pankaj"Ilinquired' about his reason for the*recommendation on exclusion of former city employees and former city council members. 1VIr Edmonds explained that they usually know a lot more than your average lay person and that, would, usually affect the entire commission. He said that he had nothing against former employees andorner Council Members, but that what he had seen in his many ,years in this business. � Mayor' Portugal ;said City Clerk Ms. ;Ellis gave them a recommendation a couple of weeks; prior to the ` selection and that was fornier City Council Members were not usually appointed to serve on a Charter Review Committee. Council Member Stone�inquired of Ms. Ellis if it was a law or rule;"or if it was a recommendation. Ms. Ellis slid if was a recommendation. CouncileMember Stone said they had made appointments and they would be going'back on their wo'r'd if they now made changes. Council Member Pankaj said it is frustrating when Council votes on something and then goes back on it. He said he was taking Mr. Edmonds' word because of his twenty-two years' experience. Mayor Pro -Tem Hughes said the Council was not perfect and he took responsibility for not following Ms. Ellis' recommendation. City Council discussed selection of members to the Commission and whether or not they should select from their District or citywide and decided the selection could be from their own districts or citywide. City Manager Grayson Path suggested they bring three or four names with them should there be duplication. City Council also discussed selection of the fifteenth member. Mayor Portugal favored the idea of her and Mayor Pro -Tem Hughes selecting the fifteenth member together and it was a consensus to do so. Mr. Edmonds said once Council selected the Commission, that they would need to identify the chairperson. Subject to removing #3 of Part I and changing #1 of Part 2 to reflect the number of the Commission to be eleven, A Motion to approve the Ordinance was made by Council Member Knox. After further discussion, the Motion was seconded by Council Member Stone. Motion failed, 2 ayes — 4 nays, with Mayor Portugal, Mayor Pro -Tem Hughes, Council Member Pilgrim and Council Member Pankaj casting the dissenting votes.