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Jim Mathews met on Thursday, May 29, from 4 to 6 p.m. with the Pat Mayse Lake Water Study <br />Committee to answer questions submitted last week by committee members. <br />Darrell Cline, the city's water rate consultant, with R.W. Beck, also sat in on the meeting. <br />Jim Mathews: I received a set of questions from Shawn. I compliment you for a set of very arduous <br />questions. I really had to step back and think about these. I'm going to attempt all of these questions. On <br />some, I may not have THE answer, but I'll have some comments to make. <br />The first issue I'll address is Cancellation. <br />I know thaYs been a concern about whether the city's existing water rights in Lake Pat Mayse would be <br />subject to cancellation if it doesn't do something to market that water in the near future. I have a series of <br />questions, some fairly specific about cancellation, including the statutory and case law that applies to this. <br />I will try to be very brief about this, but I think a little bit of basics is really important. <br />In Texas, almost all surface water is owned by the State of Texas. There are a very few minor <br />exceptions that don't apply in your circumstance. The right to use state water can be obtained through <br />what is called an appropriative water right. Texas has a long history of many jurisdictions, and over the <br />decades and centuries we've actually handled water in very different ways, but at this point in time the <br />Legislature has reduced us to a purely appropriative scheme. That means you have to have a piece of <br />paper from the state that gives you the right to use surFace water before you can take it and use it. <br />The other thing that's important is, that water always belongs to the state. What they're giving you with <br />this appropriative right is the right to use the water. You can use it fully. You can consume it in the <br />process. But if you don't use it fully, there is a statutory duty to return unused return flows back to the river <br />of origin if that's feasible. So you have this appropriative right scheme, and the state back in 1957 <br />adopted some cancellation statutes. which gave the state agency and that's changed over time; it's now <br />the Texas Commission on Environmental Quality but that state agency has the authority by statute to <br />come in and cancel a water right in whole or in part for 10 years of continuous non-use. That legislative <br />action was challenged early on, and the Supreme Court issued an opinion that it was constitutional for <br />them to do this, because the state has given a right to USE the water, not to NOT use the water. And this <br />10-year mechanism was a way to say if you're not going to really put it to beneficial use we're going to <br />come back and take it back because somebody else might need it for appropriation. <br />So those statutes do exist. However, over time those statutes have been amended to recognize some <br />very specific exceptions. I've been doing this for a fair number of years. The big problem used to be that <br />Dallas accepts it. Dallas has lakes all over East Texas one is Lake Palestine, OK? Still not connected to <br />the Dallas system. I suspect that lake has been there for 30-plus years, so the water has not been put to <br />a beneficial use by Dallas at this point in time. And there used to be some concerns because I did some <br />work for Dallas about "Oh, if we don't do something, we might end up losing this water." And over the <br />years, there were efforts to amend the statute to address these kinds of situations. <br />Let me tell you of at least a couple of specific statutory exceptions to cancellation that I think would <br />likely apply to the Paris water rights and Lake Pat Mayse. Probably the most important one is, there's an <br />exception if the permit is the result of the construction of a reservoir funded in whole or in part by the <br />holder of the permit as part of that holder's long-term water supply plan. That sounds like that fits to a T <br />your situation. The reservoir was built back in the mid-60s, it was a Corps of Engineer project, you <br />contracted with the Corps, it was for your long-term supply. Those contracts recognize thaYs what it was <br />for, and so I don't think the state could cancel your rights regardless of whether it's fully utilized today or <br />tomorrow or next week or next year. ThaYs the current law; I'm not telling you the Legislature couldn't <br />change the law, but I think you are secure under that existing exception to the cancellation provision. <br />There are a couple of others that arguably fit your situation, maybe not as closely as the one about the <br />funding the construction of reservoirs, but one that was put in place was to deal with the regional water <br />planning process. If a significant portion of the water under the water rights is authorized pursuant to a <br />permit that's been used in accordance with a specific recommendation for meeting a water need included <br />. 000035 <br />
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