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October 14, 2002 <br />Page 13 of 35 <br />example and then you can spin from there. The case that happened, and I cannot <br />recall the county, but it was a situation where, and this applies to the County <br />Commissioners Court as well, but the County Commissioners Court was in <br />attendance at a particular seminar sort of thing. They had different hotel rooms, as <br />you would expect, and one commissioner was going from room to room discussing <br />something with the commissioners about something they were going to meet on after <br />their return from their seminar; and then finding the reaction on that particular issue <br />and then goes to the other members and say so and so says, so and so says, so and <br />so says. And obviously the intent of that action was to circumvent the purpose of the <br />act which is to have those deliberations and discussions in the course of a public <br />meeting. It is very difficult to give you a hard and fast rule beyond that. Can you <br />have casual conversation or one classic example that I spoke of with the Attorney <br />General about one time. Two council members saying, I hope you support me on <br />that point. One council man and one council. That particular Attorney General felt <br />that was okay. The A.G. has rendered an opinion recently that where we have a <br />subcommittee of councilmen created where it consisted of a Mayor, and one council <br />member on a subcommittee that was going to be primarily advisory that was too <br />close because it was a five member council and obviously one more vote would be <br />all that would be necessary to adopt whatever those two members came up with. So, <br />that is part of it. There is no hard and fast rule. I think the best rule, especially for <br />the Building and Standards Commission, because I make that distinction in the <br />materials I give you under the conflicts of interest, is that the purpose of that board <br />is enforcement as opposed to the, there are aspects of enforcement in the Historic <br />Preservation but that is primarily designating areas as historic and considering <br />regulations to apply. The job of the Building and Standards Commission is to order <br />someone to do something with their property and if they fail to do that to meet out <br />the various civil penalties or other actions. I think you should do your best. You can <br />certainly go and look at the property on your own. Consider the staff reports and the <br />information that is presented by the staff. But your action ought to be based on what <br />you primarily hear at the meeting. I think that is the standard that you can follow on <br />your deliberations on a code enforcement action like that you can never go wrong. <br />And so I think that is the primary purpose of the act is to see that the essence of the <br />deliberation that leads to a decision is done in a public forum. <br />Any other questions? <br />Well, we all understand the Open Meetings Act. It only took me about five years <br />so you are actually way ahead of ine. If you have any other questions I certainly <br />encourage you to contact us and discuss these questions and we will be in contact <br />with both chairmen in regard to those kinds of issues. But I think the Open Meetings <br />Act is a very important part of what you do. It is essential that you understand it and <br />it is really not that complicated when you consider the basic principle. <br />