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Regular City Council Meeting August 11,2003 Page 18 can do it for $85.00 with an operator, just because you are paying someone $65.00 or $115.00 does not mean you are going to get more activity. He said he had been in this business for 25 years and he can give the Council a list of cities all over Oklahoma and Texas where he has done multi-million dollar jobs. Mr. Jenkins said if you call a contractor and tell him that he has 5 thousand feet of sewer line to lay 20 feet deep, and he wants to give him some idea what it is going to cost, you can if it is 20 feet deep. If we are laying a water line across a pasture, he could get really close, but when you put it in the pavement, then you are going to be off some. Mr. Jenkins said the good thing about working for the City of Paris doing work-by-the-day is they have an inspector with every crew. He said that the inspectors know exactly if you are doing your job or you are not doing your job. He said that he did not know anything about pipe cost o these other jobs, but that he did a good job to the best of his ability. He said that the good thing is, he bids a job putting the cost of the material in there with a percentage added to that, but that the city does not have to do that because they buy their own materials. He said that there are incidentals and that means if you are laying down the middle of the street and if it gets hard or rock or whatever, there are a lot of contract jobs that we do change orders on for those reasons. He indicated that day work eliminated the need for change orders. He indicated that when you are digging in the ground, you walk up and down the street say you are going to lay a sewer line down through here 15 feet deep, but if there are lines in there it is like digging through a gold mine. He said that there are ways to do day work and he agrees there are ways to control that. Mr. Jenkins said there should be a uniform way of doing work-by-the-day. Mr. Jenkins explained that on each excavator if it says 120 that is 12 metric tons, if it says 320 cat that is a 20 metric ton machine. In his case, he has a couple of Galaxy's that are 20 metric ton machines, it is all in weight class. All of the productivity is basically the same, the only difference is there is a good operator and one that is not so good, but should be worded that way. Mr. Jenkins said some of his machines have attachments that go with it and he breaks that down in the price. Councilman Bell said they checked with a couple contractors and their estimate was $65.00 - $75.00 with the operators. It was not plus the operator; it was with an