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Regular City Council Meeting <br />August 11,2003 <br />Page 21 <br /> <br />form and we have a dollar limit on this right now and if Council wanted to <br />raise it to something else, they could do that. She said that Mr. Napier has a <br />number in his head that he knows what this project should cost, and he has the <br />bid sheets on file of all of the contractors. She wanted to know if they needed <br />to see each one of them after that and it is all filed in his office. Councilman <br />Bell said we have one of the best Engineers that we have had in a long time, <br />but Mack Ross's project is a very good example in that Mr. Napier estimated <br />Mack Ross's project at $75,000.00 and it was done for $45,000.00. Mr. Bell <br />asked, if you handed an estimate to a day work contractor and he saw he could <br />do it for $75,000.00, what do you think that contractor is going to do? City <br />Manager Malone advised that the way the day work has been used, the <br />inspector is on the job and the city is in control of the job. The city can send <br />the contractor home any time during the day. The city can tell him not to <br />come back tomorrow and have another contractor work the job. They are <br />charging a price for the machine and labor depending how much labor is there, <br />which price we know in advance, and the city is controlling the job totally. It <br />is not a bid, it can be stopped anytime. If they find another sewer line that <br />conflicts or find it six feet deeper than they thought it was, or needs to be, then <br />the city is responsible for that, if we are directing that work, and there is no <br />extra cost. There is no cost built in about bonding. He said that, even in a bid <br />project, if you have plans and specifications and if the contractor finds <br />something unforseen, the contractor comes back for a change order and gets <br />additional money. He said we are taking all the risk out of these jobs for the <br />contractors. The city is assuming all the risk. City Manager Malone said that, <br />if we go out there to lay a sewer line and we find it needs to be six feet deeper <br />for some reason, then they just dig it deeper. It takes a little longer, but they <br />are being paid per hour by man and machine, and it does not make any <br />difference to them. He stated that is the benefit to the city of doing the work <br />the way we are doing it. <br /> <br />City Manager Malone advised that usually the city has three contractors that <br />have worked a crew on a regular basis and sometimes they work two crews. <br />He said that they are working five days a week and eight hours a day and <br /> <br /> <br />
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