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Joint City Council /PEDC Meeting September 15, 2014 Page 13 information about him or that I had not received the letter and we had already appointed him is a bunch of bologna and I am willing to take, say that under oath." Mr. Wilson said that Council Member Hashmi stated in a Council meeting in June that he was only in that meeting for one minute and then he left. Council Member Hashmi said that was correct. Mr. Wilson said when the PEDC Board questioned Mr. Defenbaugh he said that was not correct. Council Member Hashmi said no sir. Mr. Wilson said he guessed Mr. Defenbaugh was not telling the truth, and Council Member Hashmi responded that is exactly why he wanted Mr. Defenbaugh at this meeting. Mr. Wilson said Council Member Hashmi said there were three people in the meeting and Council Member Hashmi said that was correct. Mr. Wilson said Mr. Defenbaugh said that Ms. Clifford, Mr. Defenbaugh, Defenbaugh's assistant Beverly and Mr. Strathern were at the meeting. Council Member Hashmi said when he was in the room, that Mr. Strathern was not in the room, and that he was seeing patients that day. Council Member Hashmi said Mr. Defenbaugh asked him what he had to say and he told him nothing, other than what he had already said in his presentation to the City Council about the expenditures and receipts. Council Member Hashmi reiterated that is why he wanted Mr. Defenbaugh at this meeting. Council Member Hashmi questioned why Mr. Defenbaugh was not listed on the PEDC Agenda when he went to that meeting. He asked Mr. Moore to review the City of San Antonio Case, 820 S.W.2d and the AG Opinion on that case and then tell them whether or not the writing of Mr. Defenbaugh's name was required on the PEDC Agenda. Council Member Hashmi said they had these discussions about openness and transparency and questioned why Mayor Frierson, Council Member Pickle and Council Member Lancaster as Council Members, were not permitted into Executive Session at the PEDC meeting. He said Mr. Defenbaugh's invoice reflected the final report was in July and that was given to the Council in July by Mr. Grubbs and then they learned it was not the final report. He asked Mr. Grubbs what those charges were for if it was not the final report and why the Council Members were prevented from going into Executive Session with Mr. Defenbaugh for discussion. Mr. Grubbs said the Executive Session was closed except to Board Members, because it was the Board's prerogative and they had the right to do that. He said he could not talk about anything that was talked about in executive session nor would he. Council Member Hashmi questioned the fact that Defenbaugh came to a meeting and they had already been delivered the final report and two days after the meeting, they were told it was not the final report that was delivered to them. Council Member Hashmi asked why the secrecy. Council Member Hashmi said PEDC's agenda included an executive session for personnel, but was not specific. He said there were only two employees at PEDC and that was the interim director and her assistant. Council Member Hashmi said Ms. Barrentine was not present at that meeting and inquired whether or not it was her that was being discussed, because the agenda was not specific. He said the discussion went on for an hour and a half with Defenbaugh and Mr. Moore in a closed session about two employees, who did not get a raise, who did not get fired and who did not get anything. Mr. Moore explained there were two exceptions listed on the executive session, one was for personnel and one was consultation to receive legal advice and that he was probably in executive session for 45 minutes and it was only for legal advice. Council Member Hashmi said he was not asking them to disclose the discussion. He referenced when he gave the anonymous letter to the Council in executive