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Malone You go back to the Hiring Committee for the approach, it is not the department head. You have got to have the minority applications. We are not talking about just blacks. We are also talking Hispanics, Asian, and other minorities. We need to be encouraging all minorities to apply, but the people are sent from the Texas Workforce Commission. People that want to work make application there, and we call them and say, we got a job, and here is what we need, and they send us names, then, this committee meets and the committee makes the decision on the hiring. Now, the fact that the Parks Director from Houston, Texas has not got anything to do with it. I offered that job to a minority, before he was ever even to make an application. I encouraged other minorities to apply, and we advertised that job statewide, and we put it in a statewide magazine that relates to Parks & Recreation, and we had no minority applicants, so that is in. That has nothing to do with it. There was no discrimination. If you don't have an application, you can't hire somebody. Gray Who ever is in charge should make more effort to do something than what has been done. Fisher What efforts have you talked about. Harris Let me say this. I am one of these people that if I have to jerk someone in off the street to apply for my job, I don't want them. want someone who has the initiative to come in and apply and even seek me out. Call me back a few times, you know, you want somebody with the drive. You have got toinsist that people apply, how well are they going to do their job. Gray I am not saying pick someone off the street. Graves I think what you are going to have to do, Chief, is to, I don't know how many firemen that you have, but maybe they can be the ones that. Burgin They have been active. Graves Maybe they can be the ones that can, not this committee, maybe