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Question: Do you have the ability to buy more storage? Jim Cline: We don't. Not of a significant amount, because you're talking about thousands of acre feet that you would need to store, which is another lake. One of the things that makes Pat Mayse so attractive is that the lake exists. It's already here. Someone already has the water rights to it that we can contract with, potentially, if it makes sense for the community. Question: Capacity is 220 mgd. That's going gangbusters with new pumps and the same pipe. herb: one acre foot is 325,851 gallons. So three acre feet is about a million gallons. Jim Cline: you have to keep in mind that that's peaking. Our average daily use is 45 mgd in our community. OK, yesterday was closing in on 67 or 68. It's getting real close to 70, which is our cap coming out of the Dallas Treatment Plant. So when we talk about peaking, that's where some of these numbers become really important. When you think about do you have the water you need at the time you need it. We talk about water supply in terms of averages, but at the end of the day you've got to deliver it to the plant in the right quantity at the right time. Question: How much water do you need? Todd Reek: we're looking at 20 to 25 mgd, somewhere in that range. Jim Cline: The key question that I would request that the committee answer -- and your consultants, and the whole group that you go through -- No. 1, does it make sense to sell water to Irving, or anybody else for that matter. And No. 2, under what terms. Cost is part of that, but a big part of that is what is the dependable yield? When do you cut us off? Is there a zero level on the lake when you stop pumping out of the lake? If that's the case, that factors into the water availability, you know, and how reliable that source is. That tells us, based upon that reliability, how much we can depend on it for our future supply and can that factor into everything else we have going on so when you look at Pat Mayse and Cooper, how do those two factor together? Does anything in Oklahoma ever work out? We don't know. Part of the Region C plan actually calls for Irving, as an alternate source, to get water from Oklahoma. So, you know, we're within the bounds of our plan, in which one of our alternatives for water is Oklahoma. In fact, there's a specific project that's called for. But we've been kind of coloring between the lines, so to speak, and in terms of making that work. Question: Is it cut and dried that the pipeline from Pat Mayse would go to Lake Cooper? Jim Cline: Oh, I wouldn't say that. There could be other alignments. That's what (Randel) Dobbs is working on right now. A lot of it isn't just the miles. It's hill and dale, what you have to go over. Because you could be paying as much in pumping costs, as you do in debt service on the pipeline. And so you're consultants run those numbers. With electricity, pumps, pipes -- everything that comes with operations and maintenance -- and then you got to pay the debt service on the pipe. So those are the pieces; when we do our economics that's what we look at. It's what it's going to cost to build a pipeline, to operate that pipeline. We talk in terms of ultimately having to replace that pipeline, because at some point that pipeline has to be redone. Now, I'll be dead and buried. I'm 46, and supposing we have a 60 -year renewal on something, and I was thinking, wow, if I'm 106 and I'm alive to see that renewal come around, I'm sure that will be an interesting day. They'll have to wheel me in for that.