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Question: does Irving have the right of way for the pipelines it needs to build in the future. Jim Cline: We own that pipeline. Half of the red, and all of it on the blue. We do not own a pipeline easement to build between Pat Mayse Lake and any other point. Cooper to Lewisville, that pipeline is in place. It's carrying water today. Todd Reck: it's got quite a bit of capacity still in it. Jim Cline: we have redundancy in our pumps right now, so if a pump goes down we can swap over, and that's a smart way to run a pump station. We currently have a pipeline that extends from Cooper all the way to Lewisville, either from a partnership or sole ownership. How the water might come from someplace, and what size it would be and what route it would follow, we don't know. We have some ideas. There are a couple of different obvious choices, and we've kind of pointed to them already, you know -- Ralph Hall, Chapman. Some way to tie into the pipeline that makes a lot of sense. And it depends on the topo -- you know, you don't want to have to go over a big hill because then you have to put in a big pump station and you've got to pay for a lot of electricity, and I get hammered on costs. Question: And you could put in another pipeline without having to acquire more right of way? Jim Cline: We could put in another pipeline without buying more right of way between Cooper and Lewisville. The existing one can handle our needs; it can't necessarily handle the needs of the whole area. Again, leaning forward in the saddle, so to speak, we've got another capacity to do that. If we could get somebody else to pay for a pipeline, you bet! That's not y'all, OK, but there are other people who need water. You bet we're going to get somebody else to pay for it if we could. Todd Reck: We only use about 75 mgd of the capacity right now; we could go up to 110. We own half the capacity, half of that 220. Jim Cline: we carry some water for Upper Trinity, under contract. About 23 percent is being committed to Upper Trinity. Jim Cline: we have a permit for 25 million gallons a day of re -use water, and we could purchase it from the Trinity River Authority plant, and we just finished a study on how we can best use that. The short term answer for that is if you use it for irrigation and cooling power. And frankly, in Irving, there's already a great deal of that happening. Todd Reck: there's not a demand for that much irrigation and cooling water. We're looking at about 5 to 10 mgd ultimately. Jim Cline: And what could we do with the rest of it? We don't know, and that's part of what we're continuing to look at. Again, we're keeping our eyes in several different places. We've got to zero in on something ultimately, but that's how we're doing business. Question: Doesn't some of that water that you discharge in Irving go into the Trinity River for down - the -river use? Jim Cline: It does, but keep in mind though that the reason we got the permit for that, to pull that out, is that we brought in water from outside the basin, from Chapman. We developed a water supply, in the east, brought it over the boundary, out of the Sulphur basin and into the Trinity basin, that's why we can re -use it. That was the logic for the permit. Question: Any water from here is going to go to Dallas to be processed.