11/19/2012 MINUTESMINUTES OF THE REGULAR MEETING
OF THE
BUILDING AND STANDARDS COMMISSION
MONDAY, NOVEMBER 19, 2012
3:00 P.M.
1. Don Wilson called the Building and Standards Commission Meeting to order at 3:03
P.M.
Roll was called.
A. The following members were present:
Johnny Norris
Ryan Lassiter
Zac Saffle
Don Wilson
Vicky Ballard (arrived at 3:07pm)
Wendell Moore (arrived at 3:18pm)
B. Staff present:
Robert Talley
Nicki Brown
John Lestock
2. Approval of minutes from previous meetings. (October 15, 2012)
Motion was made by Johnny Norris and seconded by Zac Saffle to approve the
minutes for the October 15, 2012 meeting.
Motion carried unanimously. 4 -0
3. Public Hearing to consider presentations by City of Paris Code Inspectors and
owner(s) and /or lien holder(s) of the below properties who have been given notice of
a violation of Article III of Chapter 7 of the Code of Ordinances of the City of Paris,
Paris, Texas, entitled "Substandard and Dangerous Buildings and Structures ":
Vicky Ballard entered the meeting.
Request was made by Robert Talley to move to item 3. L., 905 NE 13th, Lot 1, City Block 7
L. 905 NE 13th, Lot 1, Block 7, Belmont Addition
Owner: Rhonda N. Thacker, 859 NE 13th Paris, TX 75460
Present: Rhonda N. Thacker and husband Kenneth Thacker. Mr. Thacker
addressed the Commission.
Mr. Talley stated that the property at 905 NE 13th has a rotting floor, it's boarded
up, siding is chipping and breaking, several gaps allow nature in, and there are
large holes in the siding.
Kenneth Thacker spoke, he stated that the house is solid; he has talked to a roofer
and is willing to fix the property. At this time there are no leaks in the roof. Mr.
Wilson asked how long the property has been vacant. Mr. Thacker said about a
year and a half. Johnny Norris asked what Mr. Thacker's time frame in repairs
would be and Mr. Thacker asked for 180 days. Mr. Wilson asked what the roof
was made of and Mr. Thacker said it was composition. Don Wilson asked when
several boards were removed from the structure and Mr. Thacker said about one
year ago. Mr. Thacker stopped repairs due to finances. He now would like to live
at the property. He stated that they inherited the property and own several more
structures in this area. Don Wilson asked what Mr. Thacker considers repairs on
this property. Mr. Thacker stated replacing the siding, overlay, water seal,
windows, doors, permanent roof, and estimates the cost to be around $12,000.
Johnny Norris explained that the Commission can only grant 90 days for repairs.
Don Wilson explained that if substantial progress is being made at the end of the
90 days the Commission will work with the property owner.
Robert Talley's recommendation: 30 days to demolish if not the City has the right
to demolish and apply a $1000 per day civil penalty.
Motion was made by Johnny Norris, seconded by Zac Saffle to allow Mr.
Thacker 90 days to have the property repaired (repairs included roof, siding,
windows, and doors) if not the property will be brought back to the Building
and Standard Commission.
Motion carried unanimously. 5 -0
Wendell Moore entered the meeting.
K. 1605 Van Zandt, Lot 11 & 13, Block 3, Harlan Heights
Owner: Michael L. Alexander, 226 6th NE Paris, TX 75460
Present: Michael L. Alexander
Robert Talley showed pictures of a hole were the roof connects to the front porch,
the porch is fixing to fall off, rotting, unsecure, roof line deterioration, wood
removed or falling off at the foundation, the interior is in disarray, daylight is
coming through a hole in the roof. Mr. Alexander spoke to the commission and
said he had two options, one to tear down the house and the other to repair the
house. He thinks the structure can be fixed. He would like the time to look into
the both options. He has already talked to several people about repairs and he's
getting estimates. He asked for 45 days to make a decision on what direction he
should take with this structure. Johnny Norris asked if the inside of the structure
was dry. Robert Talley stated that due to the two holes in the roof it has to be wet.
Don Wilson asked if there is a way to put this property on hold. Robert Talley
explained if they table the property he still has to do all the same paper work to
bring the property back to BSC.
Robert Talley's recommendation: 30 days to demolish if not the City has the right
to demolish and apply a $1000 per day civil penalty.
Motion was made by Johnny Norris, seconded by Zac Saffle to table this item
and bring it back to the January 2013 meeting.
Motion carried unanimously. 6. -0
O. 408 NE 10th, Lot 5, 6, 6 -A & 6 -B, Block 69 -B, City of Paris
Owner: Arnelle Camster, 715 E Cherry Paris, TX 75460
Present: Arnelle Camster
Robert Talley showed pictures of the holes in the porch, lumber deteriorating,
front porch holes and is very dangerous, the eave is rotting, unsecure, missing
wood, shingles are slipping down, and the shed in the back yard has trees laying
on it. Arnelle Camster stated that the property is being repairs already. They have
to fix the porch floor first so the workers can get to the other problems. She
explained that she lives on retirement income and has to do a little at a time.
Robert Talley asked Mrs. Camster what kind of time frame she needed. Mrs.
Camster asked for an extension till February 2013. The Commission is concerned
with the holes in the roof and Mrs. Camster said they are going to start the roof as
soon as the porch is stable.
Robert Talley's recommendation: 30 days to demolish if not the City has the right
to demolish and apply a $1000 per day civil penalty.
Motion was made by Ryan Lassiter, seconded by Vicky Ballard to allow Mrs.
Camster 90 days for repairs.
Motion carried unanimously. 6 -0
C. 1035 W Houston, Lot 3 -A & 4, Block 2, Conner Place
Owner: Jackie Jones, 1035 W Houston Paris, TX 75460
Present: Jackie Jones and her sister.
Robert Talley showed pictures of the deterioration of the eaves of the house, the
gutters are buckled, holes are in the windows, rotting and deterioration on window
seals, unsecure, exposed pipes, interior is in disarray, and there is no floor
covering. Jackie stated that she didn't realize the property was this bad. Her
daughter and three sons were living in the house. She stated that she had the floor
covering took out of the house and replaced some boards and sanded them. She
has three people interested in buying the property. Johnny Norris asked what kind
of shape the roof is in. Robert Talley stated the roof is in place but it is fastly
deteriorating. Don Wilson stated that the property needs to be cleaned up and
outside repairs need to be done to prevent further deterioration. The Commission
explained that if Mrs. Jones sales the property she needs to disclose the conditions
set by this commission to the buyer.
Robert Talley's recommendation: 30 days to demolish if not the City has the right
to demolish and apply a $1000 per day civil penalty.
Motion was made by Johnny Norris, seconded by Wendell Moore to secure
the property in 30 days and make repairs in 90 days.
Motion carried unanimously. 6 -0
A. 714 Graham St, Lot Pt of 12, Block 52, City of Paris
Owner: Kevin B. Kear, 625 Johnson Wood Dr. Paris, TX 75460
Robert Talley stated that HPC pulled this property from the BSC list.
No action was taken.
B. 1020 W Houston, Lot 14 & 15, Block 46, City of Paris
Owner: Johnny & Bertie Butler, 500 SE 91h St, Waco, TX 76706
Robert Talley has had no contact with the owner.
$16,101.12 taxes are owed on this property.
Robert Talley stated that the property is unsecure, has holes in the ceiling,
insulations is falling out of the ceiling, holes in the roof, rotting inside, and water
is entering the structure.
Robert Talley's recommendation: 30 days to demolish if not the City has the right
to demolish and apply a $1000 per day civil penalty.
Motion was made by Wendell Moore, seconded by Ryan Lassiter to follow
Robert Talley's recommendation for the property owner to demolish the
property in 30 days, if not the City has the right to demolish and apply a
$1000 per day civil penalty to the property. Motion carried unanimously. 6 -0
D. 1031 Graham St., Lot 2, Block 46, City of Paris
Owner: Ralph Deyhle, 2900 Stillhouse Rd. Paris, TX 75462 -2029
No taxes are owed.
Robert Talley said the certified letter that was sent out to the property owner came
back unopened and marked deceased.
Robert Talley showed pictures of the property where the windows were open,
unsecure, deterioration and broken windows, deterioration of foundation and
shingles coming off the roof. Don Wilson asked if it matters or changes anything
if the property is in probate. Mr. John Lestock (City attorney) stated no.
Robert Talley's recommendation: 30 days to demolish if not the City has the right
to demolish and apply a $1000 per day civil penalty.
Motion was made by Johnny Norris, seconded by Zac Saffle to follow Robert
Talley's recommendation for the property owner to demolish the property in
30 days, if not the City has the right to demolish and apply a $1000 per day.
civil penalty to the property. Motion carried unanimously. 6 -0
E. 1250 Graham, Lot 7, Block 49, City of Paris
Owner: Ralph Flippen, 97 CR 43010 Powderly, TX; 75473
Robert Talley has had no contact with the owner.
Robert Talley stated that there is an indention in the roof that concerns him, the
roof is sagging, unsecure, deterioration on roof eave, inside ceiling edge is
sagging and swelling, and the inside is leaking.
Robert Talley's recommendation: 30 days to demolish if not the City has the right
to demolish and apply a $1000 per day civil penalty.
Motion was made by Wendell Moore, seconded by Vicky Ballard to follow
Robert Talley's recommendation for the property owner to demolish the
property in 30 days, if not the City has the right to demolish and apply a
$1000 per day civil penalty to the property. Motion carried unanimously. 6 -0
F. 1401 Graham St., Lot 23, Block 191, City of Paris
Owner: Sammy D & Bobbie Murray, 1415 Graham St. Paris, TX 75460
Robert Talley spoke with the owners. The property was gift deeded to them. He
talked to Mrs. Bobbie Murray and she agrees that the structure needs to be
demolished. They will come and set up a payment plan and sign the necessary
papers for the City to demolish the structure.
Robert Talley showed pictures of deterioration, missing windows, holes in the
house and roof.
Robert Talley's recommendation: 30 days to demolish if not the City has the right
to demolish and apply a $1000 per day civil penalty.
Motion was made by Zac Saffle, seconded by Johnny Norris to follow Robert
Talley's recommendation for the property owner to demolish the property in
30 days, if not the City has the right to demolish and apply a $1000 per day
civil penalty to the property. Motion carried unanimously. 6 -0
G. 2630 Pine Bluff, Lot 13, Block 255 -A, City of Paris
Owner: Chad & Debra Brown, 6638 S Cicero Ave. Residence Inn Marriott Room
#325 Bedford, IL 60638
Robert Talley spoke with Debra Brown and she asked for more time. She stated
that she has a buyer. Vicky Ballard stated that this is the second time this structure
has come to BSC.
Robert Talley stated the properties siding is deteriorating, the ridge line doesn't
look right, siding is gone, inside is leaking and tiles are falling off the ceiling, and
the property is unsecure.
Robert Talley's recommendation: 60 days to demolish if not the City has the right
to demolish and apply a $1000 per day civil penalty.
Motion was made by Ryan Lassiter, seconded by Johnny Norris to follow
Robert Talley's recommendation for the property owner to demolish the
property in 60 days, if not the City has the right to demolish and apply a
$1000 per day civil penalty to the property. Motion carried unanimously. 6 -0
H. 1405 E Houston, Lot 7, Block 33 -A, City of Paris
Owner: Robert L. & Carolyn S. Deal, 27 21St St. SE Paris, TX 75460 -6115
$1812.27 taxes owed on property.
Robert Talley has had no contact with the owner and the certified letter came back
un- opened.
Robert Talley stated that the structure is unsecure, doors are gone, plumbing has
been stripped, holes in the floor, and deterioration.
Robert Talley's recommendation: 30 days to demolish if not the City has the right
to demolish and apply a $1000 per day civil penalty.
Motion was made by Johnny Norris, seconded by Ryan Lassiter to follow
Robert Talley's recommendation for the property owner to demolish the
property in 30 days, if not the City has the right to demolish and apply a
$1000 per day civil penalty to the property. Motion carried unanimously. 6 -0
I. 503 & 513 NE 13th, Lot 12, Block 70 -A, City of Paris
Owners: Mary Dee Lacy, 631 W Austin Paris, TX 75460
Robert Talley has talked Mrs. Lacy about several properties. Mr. Lacy inherited
this property. He has had no contact on this property.
Robert Talley stated that the windows are boarded up, deterioration on foundation
and wood, foundation is falling, there is a tree growing in the foundation,
unsecure, and the under penning is coming off.
Robert Talley's recommendation: 30 days to demolish if not the City has the right
to demolish and apply a $1000 per day civil penalty.
Motion was made by Zac Saffle, seconded by Johnny Morris to follow Robert
Talley's recommendation for the property owner to demolish the property in
30 days, if not the City has the right to demolish and apply a $1000 per day
civil penalty to the property. Motion carried unanimously. 6 -0
Ryan Lassiter left the meeting at 4:27pm.
J. 519 -529 -530 NE 13th, Lot 13, Block 70 -A, City of Paris
Owner: Mary Dee Lacy, 631 W Austin Paris, TX 75460
Robert Talley has had no contact on this property.
Robert Talley stated that the structure is deteriorating in the SE corner, boards are
falling off, windows are broken, deterioration of siding on foundation, eave of
roof has holes, window seals are breaking and the ceiling is leaking. Don Wilson
has a problem with the roof not being bad on this house.
Robert Talley's recommendation: 30 days to demolish if not the City has the right
to demolish and apply a $1000 per day civil penalty.
Motion was made by Wendell Moore, seconded by Vicky Ballard to follow
Robert Talley's recommendation for the property owner to demolish the
property in 30 days, if not the City. has the right to demolish and apply a
$1000 per day civil penalty to the property. No vote was done. The motion
and second was withdrawn. A motion was made to withdraw the motion by
Wendell Moore and 2 "d by Zac Saffle. Motion was made by Wendell Moore,
seconded by Vicky Ballard to table this property. Motion carried 5 -0.
M. 804 NE 11th, Lot S70' 21 -22, Block 10, Belmont Addition
Owner: Michael & Tina Gentry, 920 Sherwood Paris, TX 75460
Robert Talley stated that the Gentry's came in and talked to him. They asked for
60 days to repair the structure.
Robert Talley stated that the property has been boarded up, the front porch is
swelling, and he found no leaks.
Robert Talley's recommendation: 60 days to repair the property and if not the
property will be brought back to the Building and Standard Commission
Motion was made by Johnny Norris, seconded by Vicky Ballard to follow
Robert Talley's recommendation for the property owner to repair the
property in 60 days, if not the property will be brought back to the Building
and Standard Commission. Motion carried unanimously. 5 -0
N. 468 NE 12th, Lot 1, Block 70 -C, City of Paris
Owner: Dolores Dixon, 349 6th SE Paris, TX 75460
Robert Talley talked to Mrs. Dixon's son.
Robert Talley said the son asked for 60 days to find out what needed to be done to
the property. Robert stated that the house is sinking, the foundation is
deteriorating, unsecure and the shed is full of junk and trash.
Robert Talley's recommendation: 60 days to demolish if not the City has the right
to demolish and apply a $1000 per day civil penalty.
Motion was made by Johnny Norris, seconded by Zac Saffle to follow Robert
Talley's recommendation for the property owner to demolish the property in
60 days, if not the City has the right to demolish and apply a $1000 per day
civil penalty to the property. Motion carried unanimously. 5 -0
P. 448 NE 10th, Lot 3, Block 69 -B, City of Paris
Owner: David & Bertha Wallace % James Wallace, 2790 19" NW Paris, TX
75460
Robert Talley has had no contact with the owner.
$1544.06 taxes owed.
Robert Talley stated that the property has missing wood, on one side of the house
the house is curving in and the other side it is curving out, deterioration around
doors, eave is missing, house starting to buckle and there is an old shed in the
back of the property.
Robert Talley's recommendation: 30 days to demolish if not the City has the right
to demolish and apply a $1000 per day civil penalty.
Motion was made by Vicky Ballard, seconded by Zac Saffle to follow Robert
Talley's recommendation for the property owner to demolish the property in
30 days, if not the City has the right to demolish and apply a $1000 per day
civil penalty to the property. Motion carried unanimously. 5 -0
Q. 478 NE 10th, Lot 1, Block 69 -B, City of Paris
Owner: Patsy J Tibbs, 3445 Reno Dr. Paris, TX 75462
Robert Talley stated Mrs. Tibbs came into the office and talked to him. She agrees
the structure needs to be demolished. She's going to try to make arrangement to
make payments with the City of Paris to demolish the house.
Robert Talley stated that the house is unsecure, has broken windows, house is
sinking, inside ceiling is leaking, porch wood is deteriorating, and the front porch
is dangerous.
Robert Talley's recommendation: 30 days to demolish if not the City has the right
to demolish and apply a $1000 per day civil penalty.
Motion was made by Wendell Moore, seconded by Johnny Norris to follow
Robert Talley's recommendation for the property owner to demolish the
property in 30 days, if not the City has the right to demolish and apply a
$1000 per day civil penalty to the property. Motion carried unanimously. 5 -0
R. 1001 E Grove, Lot 3A, Block 175, City of Paris
Owner: Grove Trust, J L Moore Trustee, 813 Simmons Dr. Euless, TX 76040
Robert Talley spoke with Jeff Moore. Mr. Moore requested 90 days to repair the
structure.
Robert Talley stated that the house has a hole in the roof, broken windows, hole in
the porch, rotting wood, and the shingles are deteriorating.
Robert Talley's recommendation: 90 days to repair if not the property will be
brought back to BSC.
Motion was made by Johnny Norris, seconded by Vicky Ballard to follow
Robert Talley's recommendation for the property owner to repair the
property in 90 days, if not the property will be brought back to the Building
and Standard Commission. Motion carried unanimously. 5 -0
S. 128 NE 10th, Lot 10, Block 32 -B, City of Paris
Owner: Patsy J. Tibbs, 3445 Reno Dr. Paris, TX 75462
Robert Talley talked to Mrs. Tibbs and she agrees that structure need to be
demolished. Robert Talley stated the structure is bowing, cracking, sinking,
leaning, missing wood, under penning is popping off due to the structure sinking
into the ground, broken windows and the inside is leaking.
Robert Talley's recommendation: 30 days to demolish if not the City has the right
to demolish and apply a $1000 per day civil penalty.
Motion was made by Wendell Moore, seconded by Johnny Norris to follow
Robert Talley's recommendation for the property owner to demolish the
property in 30 days, if not the City has the right to demolish and apply a
$1000 per day civil penalty to the property. Motion carried unanimously. 5 -0
4. Discuss procedure concerning issuance of building permits on condemned
structures.
Robert Talley stated that in the past the BSC has condemned 47 NE 9th and 933
Connor. Harold the property owner came in to the City and wanted to repair the
structures so Robert allowed the permit department to issue permits for the work.
How would the Commission like to handle this? After a structure is condemned
would the Commission like to vote before permits to repair are issued? Vicky
Ballard stated that anytime a property owner wants to re -hab a property that's a
good thing. Don Wilson asked what if we give the property owner 90 days to
repair and they don't do anything for two years? Mr. Wilson thinks the property
owner should go through the process of coming to BSC. Zac Saffle and Vicky
Ballard agreed. Robert Talley did state that building permits are only good for six
months now. In the past they did not have an expiration date. The order still
stands. If the BSC orders state demolish in 30 days and the works not done then
the City has a right to demolish the property when the permit expires. The BSC
orders override the six month permit. Don Wilson stated that a process needs to
be established for the future.
5. Future agenda items.
(1) Don Wilson stated that the BSC and HPC need to meet again.
(2) Don Wilson also addressed that there needs to be something we can do if a
property is occupied and there's a four foot hole in the roof. It's unsafe
and people are living in it. They should be forced to move out. Can the
Fire Marshall do this?
(3) Next meeting December 17, 2012.
5. Adjournment
Motion was made by Johnny Norris, seconded by Zac Saffle to adjourn the
meeting at 5:02pm. Motion carried unanimously. 5 -0
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