03/18/2004 MINUTESMINUTES
REGULAR MEETING
AIRPORT ADVISORY BOARD
COX FIELD AIRPORT TERMINAL
MEETING ROOM
THURSDAY, MARCH 18, 2004
6:00 O'CLOCK P.M.
1. The Airport Advisory Board Meeting was called to order by Chairman Victor
Abeles at 6:00 P.M.
A. The following members were present:
Victor Abeles, Chairman
Vic Ressler, Vice Chairman
Don Morrell
J.B. Richey
Andrew Fasken
James Proctor
Glenn Chapman
B. The following members were absent:
None
C. Also present were Lisa Wright, Airport Director; Jim Collier, Airport
Manager; Larry W. Schenk, City Attorney; Gary Vest, Chamber CEO;
Jimmy Smyers, and John Gann.
2. Approval of minutes from previous meetings. A motion to approve the
minutes of the February 24, 2004, meeting as presented was made by J.B.
Richey, seconded by Andy Fasken. Motion carried 7 -0.
3. Report by Jerry Richey regarding the GPS approach. Mr. Richey reported that
only so many of these are done each year, but we are on the waiting list and
it may be a couple of years before we are in a position to do this.
4. Discussion ofand possible action on recommendations regarding mechanics
working at the airport without permits. The Board was given a copy of the
Airport regulations relating to this subject for their review. Ms. Wright
explained that the regulations state no one may undertake "aeronautical
activities" without a permit, and airplane mechanic is included in the
definition of "aeronautical activity "; therefore, a permit is required. She
advised the Board they could recommend a change to the ordinance. The
Board was also advised that Jimmy Smyers was the only person who has
obtained a permit.
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The Board inquired as to whether a mechanic working in a private hangar
solely for the hangar owner had to have a permit. The City Attorney stated
that a fair reading of the ordinance did mean that they would have to have a
permit, because there is no exception in the ordinance for private mechanics
in private hangars. Mr. Fasken asked if the requirement was for the purpose
of protecting the City from liability, and the City Attorney stated that could
have been the intent, and the question of insurance would go back to the City
Council. He was not sure the City had an interest in perpetuating this
requirement; his only concern was secondary liability, such as a fire while
fixing the plane. John Gann stated he used to have a business at the Airport
but now works for one person only, but he understands why the City has the
requirement. Mr. Schenk asked Mr. Collier what we would do if someone
came in and needed a mechanic while Mr. Smyers was not available. Mr.
Collier said he would let the pilot know that the other mechanics are licensed
but do not have permits. If a transient airplane comes in, he always contacts
Mr. Smyers.
Mr. Abeles asked if it would be reasonable to suggest that we do away with
the requirement for permitting mechanics, and Mr. Schenk said it would. Mr.
Smyers asked to be treated like everyone else; if no one else has to have
insurance, then he doesn't want to have to have it, because it costs $5,000 per
year. Mr. Abeles stated he saw a difference between a mechanic who
operates a business at the Airport and a mechanic who is an employee of a
specific hangar owner.
A motion was made by Andy Fasken to contact other airports to see what
requirements they have related to permitting, seconded by James Proctor.
Motioned carried 7 -0.
5. Discussion of and possible action on recommendations regarding the private
hangar lease policy. Gary Vest stated that Andy Fasken had spoken to him
regarding marketing the Airport and what we could do to attract more people.
Mr. Vest stated that there have been a lot of attempts in the past to build
hangars and the ordinances have been obstructive to that; however, he said
this was not his expertise and he was not familiar with all the details of those
situations. He stated the Chamber had prepared a brochure in the past in an
attempt to market the airport. Mr. Vest recommended that we go back and
look at the process, and Mr. Abeles advised that we had already done that, but
he would like to see some information put out about what process people
should go through to get a hangar. He asked if PEDC funds could be
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available, and Mr. Vest stated that funds could be available if it was related to
industry; however, he cited the fact that many air bases have closed recently
all over the country, so the potential of development is very limited. Mr.
Abeles asked if the Chamber could help people get directed to the correct
people to help them find out what they need to do to build a hangar, to get the
right answers. Mr. Vest stated that the best potential for this airport is to get
other private hangars or company hangars built, and he advised that the
Board meet with Ms. Wright and Mr. Schenk to sort out any problems with the
lease policy.
Mr. Vest presented a proposal from Novaro Nichols with Old South Airplane
Works requesting property at the Airport for a lease to build a WWII airplane
museum. Mr. Vest stated that this was a tourism project, but they would not
be able to help him.
Mr. Abeles stated that the Board wanted to try to make it easier to build a
hangar at the Airport. Mr. Schenk stated that the leases we already have are
very similar to the requirements of the policy, so he thinks that some people
are basing their decisions on hearsay and not on correct information. Ms.
Wright handed out an existing form that people complete when they want to
build a hangar. Mr. Abeles stated that he would like to see something that is
more inviting. Ms. Wright advised that this form was something that would
be used further into the process, but she could create a new form that allows
people to express an interest and request that we contact them. The Board
requested that the Airport Director follow up with Mr. Nichols; research a past
request from Larry Ferguson for a hangar lease; and prepare an interest card
that people could take with them and subsequently return and ask to be
contacted if they were interested in leasing property for a hangar.
6. The meeting adjourned at 7:30 P.M.
Vi or Abeles, Chairman
Lisa Wright, Recd er