08/08/2018 MInutes1. The chairman called the meeting to order at 4:03 P.M.
2. The minutes of the July 11, 2018 meeting were approved by acclamation.
3. Discussion and possible action on the following Certificates of Appropriateness
HD -I5 418 W Washington, Wise House -Roof replacement, Justin Vickers
Mr. Vickers appeared as the representative of the property owner, and is the caretaker of the house. He
stated there were multiple leaks in the roof and it was doing damage to the interior of the house. He stated
that the owner of the property had investigated the use of the cedar shingles, and the option was not only
costprohibitive, but the owners had a lot trouble finding anyone who would install the cedar shingles, nor
would any insurance companies insure the property with cedar shingles. The owner is requesting to put
on a high profile shingle, similar to the historic home across the street, in the color green.
Chairman Dux spoke to the fact that waterpenetrating the roof is the quickest way to destroy a building.
He gave Mr. Vickers a copy of an article on the advantages, disadvantages and cost comparison of
different type roofs and longevity and asked him to review it, along with the NPS preservation briefs on
wooden roofs before he replaces the roof. He also advised that the asphalt shingles will diminish the value
of the property the minute it is put on.
Commissioner Hider made the motion to approve the use of the Timberline high definition asphalt
shingles in hunter green, seconded by Commissioner Lazar. Chairman Dux made an amendment that the
shingles be approved with the shingles presented or a higher profile, due to the importance to the
character of the structure, in which Commissioner Hider agreed. With no other discussion, a call for a
vote was made. Motion carried S - 0
B. 507 S. Church, replacement siding, Hunter Moore
Mr. Moore explained that his house was built in the late 1800's and was a two story house, but the second
story was remove at some point, creating some roof lines that dump excessive water on the west facing
facade of the house and causing deterioration of the current siding. Mr Moore proposed to replace it with
cedar shingles as an accent siding, and painting it with the appropriate color. He noted examples of cedar on
the existing carriage house that belongs with the property, and on the neighboring house.
Mr. Moore further explained that the type of siding that is currently on the house is no longer available, and
the more modern type of this siding doesn't have the same profile. Mr. Moore researched the wood mill in
REGULAR MEETING MINUTES
CITY OF PARIS HISTORIC PRESERVATION COMMISSION
CITY COUNCIL CHAMBERS
WEDNESDAY AUGUST 8. 2018
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Present:
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Absent:
Chris Dux, Chairman
Matt Coyle, Vice Chairman
Randy Hider, Secretary
Sarah Barbee
Linda Vandiver
Glee Emmite
Guests:
Mike Lazar
Justin Vickers
Hunter and Kelli Moore
Linda Knox, Council liaison
Janet and Keith Green
Cheri Bedford, HPO
Paul Denney
John Godwin, City Manager
Barbara Wilson
1. The chairman called the meeting to order at 4:03 P.M.
2. The minutes of the July 11, 2018 meeting were approved by acclamation.
3. Discussion and possible action on the following Certificates of Appropriateness
HD -I5 418 W Washington, Wise House -Roof replacement, Justin Vickers
Mr. Vickers appeared as the representative of the property owner, and is the caretaker of the house. He
stated there were multiple leaks in the roof and it was doing damage to the interior of the house. He stated
that the owner of the property had investigated the use of the cedar shingles, and the option was not only
costprohibitive, but the owners had a lot trouble finding anyone who would install the cedar shingles, nor
would any insurance companies insure the property with cedar shingles. The owner is requesting to put
on a high profile shingle, similar to the historic home across the street, in the color green.
Chairman Dux spoke to the fact that waterpenetrating the roof is the quickest way to destroy a building.
He gave Mr. Vickers a copy of an article on the advantages, disadvantages and cost comparison of
different type roofs and longevity and asked him to review it, along with the NPS preservation briefs on
wooden roofs before he replaces the roof. He also advised that the asphalt shingles will diminish the value
of the property the minute it is put on.
Commissioner Hider made the motion to approve the use of the Timberline high definition asphalt
shingles in hunter green, seconded by Commissioner Lazar. Chairman Dux made an amendment that the
shingles be approved with the shingles presented or a higher profile, due to the importance to the
character of the structure, in which Commissioner Hider agreed. With no other discussion, a call for a
vote was made. Motion carried S - 0
B. 507 S. Church, replacement siding, Hunter Moore
Mr. Moore explained that his house was built in the late 1800's and was a two story house, but the second
story was remove at some point, creating some roof lines that dump excessive water on the west facing
facade of the house and causing deterioration of the current siding. Mr Moore proposed to replace it with
cedar shingles as an accent siding, and painting it with the appropriate color. He noted examples of cedar on
the existing carriage house that belongs with the property, and on the neighboring house.
Mr. Moore further explained that the type of siding that is currently on the house is no longer available, and
the more modern type of this siding doesn't have the same profile. Mr. Moore researched the wood mill in
Dekalb, Texas for the cost of duplicate siding, but found it cost prohibitive as the expense would include a
new knife, set fee, and oversized wooden pieces. Mr. Moore considered removing some siding from the back of the
house, but concluded there weren't enough sizes andpieces to work. Chairman Dux asked the commission if they
had further questions, and called for a motion. A motion was made by Glee Emmite, seconded by Randy Hider to
approve the use of the cedar shingles on the west facing fagade, limited to the area around the set of windows and
not to include under the porch. Motion carried 5 — 0
C. 17 Clarksville ST- Facade repair/replacement- Janet Green
D. 21 Clarksville ST. FaVade repair/replacement- Janet Green
E. 27 Clarksville St. Removal of slipcover, and repair of existing historic facade -Janet
Green
17 Clarksville: Mrs. Green is determining how to finish out the lowerportion of the fagade after removing the
slip cover, and exposing the transom windows. Sheplans to repair the original transom. She showedpictures of
different types of store fronts around downtown. Herproposal includes recessing the storefront approximately 5
feet and to include a configuration of two double doors flanking a single door in the middle, and the door design
that looked similar to a bulkhead. The doors would either be recycled ore purchased, and ifpurchased they will
be using fiberglass. Above each door would be another three sets of short wide windows to fill in the space.
Commissioner Dux asked if the transom windows were three sets of 4 windows each, and ifso, recommended that
the placement of the doors all align with the division of the transom for symmetry. Mrs. Green said that was the
intention. A motion was made to approve the Certificate of Appropriateness as presented by Commissioner
Emmite, seconded by Commissioner Vandiver, motion carried S — 0.
21 Clarksville: The upper windows story windows were discussed first, and Mrs. Green said she was getting
prices on the 4 over one window configuration, and asked if this was required. Chairman Dux said it would be
preferable to have this since this is what was on the building originally, but if it was not available, it would be
acceptable to do a one over one. Mrs. Green said she would continue to research the one over one as she liked
that look as well. Mrs. Green proposed two drawings One included a traditional storefront, having one large
door in the center, and two display windows and bulkhead. She also proposed the double door with divided light,
and the divided light display windows. A motion was made to approve the traditional storefront design by
Commissioner Vandiver seconded by Commissioner Emmite, motion carried S — 0. Mrs. Green would wait to
see what the design professionals come up with when the visit on August 10, 2018, and may return with the new
information.
27 Clarksville: Mrs Green presented pictures of the transom windows and the rear of the building under the slip
cover. She is concerned with the roof line, and how it may look on the historic building, but wanted to receive
approval to remove the slip cover from the commission in the event she request a grant. A motion was made to
approve the Certificate of Appropriateness to remove the fa(ade by Commissioner Emmite, seconded by
Commissioner Vandiver, seconded by Commissioner Emmite, motion carried S - 0
F. 104 Bonham St.
There was not one present to answer questions about this certificate of appropriateness, so it was unclear if the
applicant was trying to mitigate a potentialproblem, or looking for a more permanent repair to the property to
hold the terracotta and cast stone pieces on the parapet wall shelf.
After discussion, Chairman Dux made the motion to approve the Certificate of Appropriateness with the
contingency that the application of tar paper or other substance to hold the terracotta and cast stone parapet wall
together is a temporary measure to mitigate further deterioration orpieces of stone falling. Commissioner
Lazar asked what the definition of temporary. Commissioner Hider asked how the tarpaper would actually keep
pieces from falling offfrom the wall. Commissioner Dux explained that the owner was attempting to support the
terracotta/cast stone similar to duct tape. He also clarified his motion to include the definition of temporary.
Motion to approve the use of the tar paper with the contingency that the property owner will submit to the
commission within 60 days the detailedplan for when permanent repairs they are going to take place and what
exactly the permanent repairs will be. Motion seconded by Glee Emmite, motion carried 5 - 0
4. Commissioner Emmite and Chairman Dux shared highlights from the NAPC forum.
a. Main Street: a proven approach, and how vacant properties do create a loss of revenue for downtown.
b. Surveys, and demolition by neglect, and how people leave properties to deteriorate, and that maybe there is a
need to help people who want to restore their properties
c. Education is important to getpeople involved in a friendly way, maybe a rehab club, and maybe training with
younger kids to develop an appreciation for historic preservation
d. Chairman Dux recommended the members if at all possible attend a forum.
e. Chairman Dux shared about a town who had a partnership with a non-profit entity and set up an endowment
fund for preservation, or make loans to property owners.
f. Chairman Dux share that he was impressed the training, and there were a multitude ofprograms that would
be beneficial. One of his sessions was the economic impact of maintaining the historic downtowns, and how it
can really improve the community's value.
5. Outreach plan:
The commission discussed a potential mitigation plan for the stained glass windows on the church/home located
at 442 S. Main.
6. HPO report:
Cheri told the commission that she would prepare the list of in house approved certificates of appropriateness in
the next meeting's agenda.
Hearing no o ,r items, the meeting adjourned at 5:35 p.m.
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