02 City Council Minutes 8-10-04MINUTES OF THE SPECIAL CITY COUNCIL MEETING
August 10, 2004
The City Council of the City of Paris met in Special Session at 9:00 a.m.,
Tuesday, August 10, 2004, at the Love Civic Center, North Hall, 2025 S.
Collegiate Drive, Paris, Texas. Mayor Fendley called the meeting to order with
the following Council members present: Jim Bell, Jay Guest, Mary Ann Fisher,
Don Wilson, and Karen Wilkerson. Also present were Interim City Manager
Terry Townsend, City Attorney Larry Schenk and Asst. City Clerk Sherian
Dixon.
Mayor Fendley called for consideration, discussion and possible action on the
proposed 2004-2005 City Budget.
Fire Chief Ronnie Grooms came forward and gave the Council a handout of the
summary of the Fire Department Budget, which gave explanations for the line
items on his budget changes.
Chief Grooms said that the proposed reduction of three firefighters would cut
services, as well as the quality of those services provided. He suggested that
cuts could be found in other areas in order to keep personnel, if possible.
Councilman Bell mentioned he was concerned about the loss of control in the
overtime budget. He related that other department heads have said they would
find cuts in the budget to keep personnel and he would like to see the Fire
Chief
do that.
Councilwoman Fisher said in the budget, that the department was using a lot
of overtime already and figured that there would be even more overtime used
if these personnel were cut.
Chief Grooms said there were some things in the budget that were not in his
control but because of the need to keep minimum staffing, they would have to
use overtime to do that. He explained that there is no law for minimum
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staffing, but the NFPA has guidelines and recommendations. He said he has
already expended 88% of his overtime budget this year for a total of
$247,345.00, year to date.
Mayor Fendley asked if sick leave was the driving factor for so much overtime
or was it continuing education. Chief Grooms cited sick leave as one of the
many factors that affect sick leave. He said there are different variables that
drive up overtime, such as sickness, injuries and training.
Councilmen Bell mentioned that the Fire Department recently conducted
training for drivers and wondered, since some of the men were called in to do
that on their days off and some of the men had been drivers for twenty years,
wasn't there a better way to do this. He suggested several different ways this
could be addressed, such as video training or bringing in the teacher on
overtime while the drivers were on duty.
Councilman Bell reminded Chief Grooms and the Council that the last Council
had told Chief Grooms that he needed to come forward with a plan to reduce
overtime and instead, he came forward with an increase. Councilman Bell
agreed with Councilwoman Fisher that it wasn't doing any good to take money
off of salaries and add it to overtime.
Chief Grooms said there was a perceived need by personnel, because of a
wreck, for this training. Councilman Bell asked that overtime and personnel
cuts be discussed after they went through the Fire Department budget, line item
by line item.
Chief Grooms said Food for Humans could be taken down from $1000.00 to
$300.00. He explained they use this to feed personnel on scene at a large fire
and also to buy water and gatorade.
Chief Grooms explained that wearing apparel is dependent on the number of
employees he has and if the number of personnel is reduced that line item
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would be reduced accordingly.
Chief Grooms said they have been reducing the nonessential use of apparatus
and that has reduced the mileage and gas usage. He said they are currently
using a little less than $1000.00 on fuel and he felt that line item could be
reduced to $12,000.00, but reminded them this was dependent on the price of
gas.
Chief Grooms said if the City loses the garage, that will increase the amount he
spends on maintenance and repairs. He said they helped send Shawn Bishop
to school so he could work on their vehicles and that was a tremendous service
for the Fire Department. Councilman Wilson asked if any local mechanics
could work on the Fire trucks. Chief Grooms indicated there were some local
providers that could do some of the mechanic work, but not all of what they
need.
In Minor Apparatus, Chief Grooms said he reduced computers from $3000.00
to $1500.00.
Chief Grooms said when the Council decided against funding the SCBA
replacement earlier this year, it put constraints on the department to make
allocations for replacements of the SCBA equipment until they could do a full
scale change over. He said they were going to apply for a FEMA grant to help
with the change over. He said there will be a date when they will have to
change to the new equipment completely.
Chief Grooms said he would like to leave the Sigtronic Intercom for the E-3s
in the budget, if possible. He explained these were headsets that gave the
firemen
better communication capabilities on the way to a fire. Councilman Wilson
suggested taking the $3500.00 for those headsets out of the SCBA line item or
the fire hose line item. Chief Grooms said it would be better out of the fire hose
account. It was the consensus to delete the Sigtronic Intercom line item.
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He said they could do without the Fire hose testing pump for $1850.00.On
replacement truck radios, Chief Grooms decided it could be cut to $1300.00 at
the suggestion of the Council. He also felt they could cut the Res-Q-Jacks
stabilizing system. He felt he could reduce replacement hand tools to $1000.00.
He suggested he could take out $4700.00 for the Homotro 3040NCT Cutter
since they had three smaller cutter and two larger cutters already. That reduced
the Minor Apparatus from $87,200.00 to $69,600.00.
On Chemical Medical, Fire Chief Grooms said he could reduce that to
$4500.00.
He suggested reducing Other Supplies to $4500.00. He explained that Travel
Expenses are directly connected to Training. He said he could reduce Travel to
$5000.00.
Chief Grooms felt publications could be reduced to $200.00 since they were
getting some duplicates in their magazines. He said they were trying to be more
frugal in their use of electricity and felt they could probably reduce the
Utilities-Electricity line item to $30,000.00. He also related that they could
reduce Associations to $1000.00.
On Utilities-Water & Gas, he said he had reviewed that and felt they could
reduce that by $4000.00.
Fire Chief Grooms explained that they tried to provide continuing training for
Fire Department personnel and some of that cannot be done in-house. He said
that they either have to be sent off for some of the training or bring teachers in
to provide the training. He said it was recommended to him to cut the Fire
Marshal's Conference at $1500.00 and he also cut the IFSTA Books at
$1250.00.
Chief Grooms said the line item for Emergency Vehicle Training was
questionable. He explained that was money he was using to get more training
for Shawn Bishop in the garage to work on their fire vehicles. He said if they
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cut the garage, then, possibly, they could use that money to train someone in
their department to work on the vehicles. The Council decided to come back
and review that item later.
During the discussion of training expenses, Councilman Bell asked if the
overtime that was used for training could be tracked and, then, put in the
training budget. He explained it would be easier to manage overtime, knowing
how much was used for training and how much was used to cover someone on
sick leave.
Mayor Fendley asked how much time was used for sick leave this year. Chief
Grooms said he had his training officer do a study of the amount of sick leave
used by each individual. He did not have it with him, but said he would get a
copy to the Council members. Chief Grooms said they could either back the
sick leave out of the overtime budget or start tracking the overtime now.
Finance Director Anderson said that not all overtime is for sick leave or
training. He mentioned that they call people in on overtime for big fires,
vacations and then, there are some who work fifty-six hours (56) in their cycle
and anything over fifty-three (53) hours is overtime. Chief Grooms said some
overtime was inevitable and was caused by scheduling and this was mandated
by law.
Councilman Bell said the Council needed to know how much of the Fire
Department overtime was due to sick leave, how much was due to scheduling
and how much was due to training. He felt they needed to know that to see
what was driving the overtime and how it could be managed. Chief Grooms
said he would get with Finance Director Anderson and come up with those
figures.
On Buildings and Grounds, Permanent Property, Chief Grooms said he was
cutting the $17,000.00 he had put in the budget to complete Phase 2 of a
project they started this year at Station 3 on Bonham Street. He explained that
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they just completed Phase I by repouring the front drive way, which was in
great disrepair. He said they could do Phase 2 some other time. He said Station
3 had more first responder calls than any station in the city.
Fire Chief Grooms felt he could remove $1000.00 out of the radio maintenance
item.
Chief Grooms called the Council's attention to the chart that he had included
for maintenance costs on his apparatuses and mentioned that it had risen
tremendously over the past five years. He came to an average annual cost of
$38,592.00 using the last five years' figures and suggested that the line item be
$40,000.00, because they had not budgeted sufficient amounts in the past five
years and there had been overruns.
Councilman Bell asked which pieces of equipment were causing the overruns
this year. Chief Grooms said a ladder truck incurred most of the cost and
Engine 3 had a lot of repair work on it. Councilman Bell wanted to know how
important that ladder truck was to the City. Chief Grooms said it was very
important. He had a list of the buildings more than two stories in the City of
Paris. He also mentioned that the ladder truck had its own pumper and can be
a reserve pumper truck.
Chief Grooms said the ladder truck responded to the Downtown area, the
schools, the hospital and any two story structures.
On the lease and rental of the copier, Chief Grooms felt that could be reduced
to $2500.00. On a question from Councilman Wilson, Finance Director
Anderson explained that in his department, when someone used the copier for
personal copies, they paid five cents per copy. Councilman Wilson indicated
that if one department is paying five cents for personal copies, then all
departments should be paying that.
Chief Grooms said he could reduce electronic data processing from $2000.00
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t0 $1000.00.
Chief Grooms explained the discrepancy on the medical expenses from the
proposed budget and his handout in medical expenses was because they had
received a federal grant, since he produced that budget, to implementing the
wellness-fitness program. He said this reduced the line item from $134,00.00
down to $12,103.00. Finance Director Anderson said he needed to know how
much of that would be spent this year and how much next year, and there also
had to be an offsetting revenue for that in the budget.
On a question from Councilman Bell as to when we would have money in hand
from that grant, Deputy Chief Steve Walters said the way he understands it,
they have to send the invoices into FEMA and FEMA will award the money
within three weeks. He said he was told that they award the money over a
period of time.
He explained that $81,000.00 was for all the physicals and the rest was to buy
more exercise equipment to implement the wellness part of the program.
Councilman Poston entered the Council room at 10:46 a.m. and took his seat.
Councilman Wilson said it was critical to know what year we receive the grant
in and he wanted to know how this was going to impact the 2004-05 budget.
In Machinery, Tools and Equipment, Chief Grooms requested that a
contingency be placed in the budget to do the SCBA transition, through a grant,
for $195,000.00.
Concerning the thermal imaging cameras, Councilman Wilson asked if they
could only buy one this year. Chief Grooms felt that was logical and they could
consider buying another one next year.
Mayor Fendley asked that it would be easier track the grants if they were
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separated out.
Councilman Wilson said that if there was any way if they had to lay anyone off,
could they hire a part-time fireman like a substitute, to come in and fill in for
sick leave or possibly a pool of five or six people who are certified. He
indicated this would help with the overtime. It was suggested that possibly
retired firemen could do this, but it needed to be researched to find out the
Civil Service regulations.
Mayor Fendley asked, when the three new fire stations were built, was there a
facility need study. He also asked if Paris could do without one station and still
cover the City. Chief Grooms said there was a study done and it is tied into the
ISO rating. He explained that the ISO recommends a 1% mile coverage and at
the time, Paris did not have that. He said they covered the City with three
stations for years, but the City has started growing and the Fire Department
needed to grow to cover the expanded area.
He explained that if they did away with a station, it would make their response
times longer. On a question from Mayor Fendley about how much that would
add to the response times, Chief Grooms said they would have to do some time
trials.
Councilman Poston asked which station had less calls. Chief Grooms indicated
it was Station 4 near Paris High. Councilman Wilson agreed, citing the reason
as not as many houses in that area. Chief Grooms said the Fire Stations are not
only built for the area as it is now, but also for the future of that area.
Councilman Wilson said the growth in population is out on Hwy. 195. Chief
Grooms reminded him that the City also annexed property out near Sylvan and
the Fire Stations were placed so they could cover all areas and still have a good
response time.
Councilman Bell asked Chief Grooms to check and see how the City of
Texarkana was hiring certified Fire Fighters under Civil Service. Chief Grooms
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related that the Fire Department tested for only certified Firefighters in the early
1980's and Civil Service lawyers said they were opening themselves up to
liability. He said that even Civil Service evolves and that, possibly for their
next text, they may be able to do that again.
Councilman Wilson asked if the Firemen were in favor of being in Civil
Service.
Chief Grooms said he felt they did want to be in Civil Service. He felt it makes
hiring practices fair. Councilman Wilson said that sometimes the test was very
exclusionary and because of that, they weren't always getting the best person
for the job. Chief Grooms said they were researching to see what exams are
available.
Councilman Poston asked Chief Grooms to look at what response time would
be if the Bonham or Jefferson Road Fire Stations were shut down. Mayor
Fendley said he wanted him to look at the cost savings, also.
Chief Grooms said the Fire Department tried to respond to industry within four
minutes and to residential within five minutes. He felt closing a station would
hamper their ability to respond within those times.
Mayor Fendley closed the open session for a break at 11:24 a.m. He reconvened
in Open Session at 11:35 a.m.
Mayor Fendley called for consideration of the EMS budget. Kent Klinkerman,
director of the Paris EMS, directed the Council's attention to the handout on
the current fiscal year's financial information. He noted that the projected
income for this year was $1,807,000.00 and the proposed budget was
$118,000.00 or 6.2% less.
Mr. Klinkerman pointed out that some of the overtime was mandatory for out
of town trips, to Dallas, Houston, Oklahoma City, etc. and they call personnel
in for that. He said there is a potential for income every time one of the trucks
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is moving. He said there is a direct correlation between the overtime and
revenue number.
Mr. Klinkerman said they have already used $159,601.00, which is 127%
percent of what he had budgeted. He said they tried to guestimate on overtime
usage, but with the new hospital system in place, there will be differences.
He mentioned that he had increased the line item for Motor Vehicle - Gasoline
because gas has gone up. He said they could eliminate batteries because the
equipment was so sophisticated that they take the vehicles to the shop and they
replace or fix everything.
Mr. Klinkerman explained that Durable Equipment was for replacing the
different computers in the field, at the stations and at the business office that
needed replacing, as well as radio equipment.
Mr. Klinkerman mentioned that he raised Chemical - Medical because the cost
of fuel has impacted everything they buy. He said that year to date, they had
spent $55,831.00, which makes them over budget. He said he orders most of
his supplies over the internet to get the best prices. Mayor Fendley asked if he
could use the hospital's purchasing group. Mr. Klinkerman explained that with
McCuistion, they could, but with St. Joseph, they couldn't. He had not talked
with Essence. He explained that they are getting a lot of things factory direct,
which is very cheap, but he would check to see if he could get it through the
hospital cheaper.
Mr. Klinkerman said the line item for photographic could be eliminated. He
said he increased Communications - Telephone, which included all the phones
at all the stations, the phones at administration, all the cell phones on all the
trucks,
and connectivity for downloading to the server.
Mr. Klinkerman said he was cutting the travel allowance by $2000.00, since no
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one was going to the TML Conference.He said the Publications could be cut by
$500.00.
He explained that there was an increase in Associations because the state
increased fees for Licensure. On Training and Education, it was suggested that
he cut $2,000, because the year to date was only $3800.00. Mr. Klinkerman
explained that it was down because of some grant money and it would be a
gamble to count on that grant money, again. It was decided to go ahead with
the cut.
He said he increased the Buildings and Grounds because they have some roof
issues at the Station on Lamar. Since he had only spent $120.00 this year on
Furniture and Fixtures, which is basically repair and maintenance, it was
decided to zero that account out.
Mr. Klinkerman increased the Radio Maintenance account because they were
already over budget for the year. He increased the Motor Vehicle Maintenance
because they had already spent $22,000.00 in ten months. He explained that the
ambulances are not sent to the City Garage.
He did mention that he felt that had been no Worker's Comp injuries this year
and that was due, in part, to the implementation of the Wellness Program.
Mr. Klinkerman did mention there was no ambulance in this budget. He said
they have seven ambulances that range in age from 1999 to 2004. He said they
try to keep an ambulance seven years, but if they keep them long, they spend
too much on maintenance. He said they would probably replace one next year,
which will make it an eight-year replacement schedule.
Councilman Wilson asked how much a non-emergency transfer to Dallas
would cost. Mr. Klinkerman said it was a base rate of $220.00 plus $8.00 per
loaded mile, meaning most trips would be a least $1000.00 or more depending
on equipment needed during the trip.
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Councilman Wilson asked how much Medicare would pay on that. Mr.
Klinkerman reminded them this was mandated by Federal law. He said they
would pay about $185.00 on the base rate and then they can balance bill the
patient or the secondary insurance and the difference has to be written off. He
said they were transitioning from a fee for service, which started in 2002, to a
national fee schedule, which is overlaid with a regional fee schedule. He said
there is a difference in reimbursement because Lamar is considered a rural
county. He said, if they approve, Medicare allows about $6.50 per loaded mile.
Mr. Klinkerman said about 46% of the EMS department income comes from
Medicare, 9% comes from Medicaid, and 33% comes from private insurance.
He explained that because of the allowables by Medicaid, he has positioned the
charges above that so that reimbursements will continue to go up every year.
Mr. Klinkerman asked that they not do away with the ambulance in the budget
yet. He would like to figure the impact it would make to the budget and
contract, first, and then bring those figures back to the CounciL It was agreed
that he could bring that back to Council.
Councilman Bell asked if he was asked to cut any personneL Mr. Klinkerman
said he was not. He said his supervisors fill in as needed, while still
supervising.
He said they also use reserves. For the community outreach, they use a lot of
volunteers as well.
Mr. Klinkerman said the First Responder Program started in 1998. He
mentioned he was a state-certified instructor for that and that Rick Browning
is the lead instructor. He said there are 18 First Responder groups and they
have trained about 120 people outside of the City limits for this. He said all
paid personnel carry pagers and when there is an emergency, ten vehicles and
100-150 people can respond within thirty minutes. Councilman Bell
commended him on the cooperative effort and asked Chief Ronnie Grooms of
the Fire Department is he would like to comment.
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Chief Grooms explained that, although all of the Mutual Aid agreements the
Fire Department has had, have expired, they will still respond when they have
personnel and equipment to respond.
Councilman Wilson said we should have a formal agreement with the two
Volunteer Fire Departments, who have stations located in the City limits, to
back our departments and respond when we need them. Chief Grooms said that
one of the problems with Mutual Aid is that you are bound by an agreement,
whether you have the personnel and equipment available or not.
Councilman Bell said that the EMS and the Fire Department were in the same
department in most cities and wondered why they were separate in Paris. Mr.
Klinkerman said that was set up in 1979. He said in Austin and Travis County,
they researched to find the best patient care and found it was best with a
separate EMS.
Councilman Bell asked if the Fire Department can utilize volunteers or First
Responders. He continued that there needs to be a spirit of cooperation between
the City of Paris and the Volunteer Fire Departments. Chief Grooms said he
needed to provide the Council with their Standard Operating Procedures as well
as the Protocols for how they respond to emergencies.
Councilman Bell was worried about the lack of fire hydrants on Hwy. 195 for
fire coverage. City Engineer Shawn Napier said there were five or six fire
hydrants on Hwy. 195, now.
Mayor Fendley said they still need to discuss the budgets in Public Works and
also the Health Department budget. It was decided to have budget meetings on
Monday, August 16, 2004 from six to 9:00 p.m. and also on Tuesday, August
17, 2004 from six to 9:00 p.m.
Mayor Fendley handed out the resignation of Interim City Manager Terry
Townsend and indicated that he had gotten that yesterday. He said this would
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need to be put on the next agenda. He said they would need to contact Chris
Harding of the Waters Group to see how the search for a City Manager is
coming along.
Councilman Bell reminded everyone of the Senator Bill Ratliff's dinner on
Thursday night, August 12tn
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.
CURTIS FENDLEY, MAYOR
APPROVED AS TO FORM:
SHERIAN DIXON, ASST. CITY CLERK