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stated that she didn't understand that if it was toxic before does it just go away. <br />Mark explained that it was painted over. Mark also answered Ms. Cherry's question <br />and said that it does not go away, it keeps growing. Ms. Ruthart asked Mark if paint <br />seals it. Mark stated that yes it does, but it can come back. Mark explained that this <br />time there was no visible mold. Ms. Cherry asked him if he used any machines to <br />test this unit. Mark explained that he did use machines that test air quality and <br />surface mold. He also told Ms. Cherry that he was the inspector from the 2010 mold <br />test and that the mold was visible at the 2010 inspection but it was not visible at <br />this latest inspection, but there was an elevated level in the air samples. No other <br />questions for Mark, Ms. Ruthart explained to Mark that the PHA was going to go <br />further than his recommendations (remove carpet and clean ductwork) and <br />completely gut the unit, treat the interior studs and flooring, and clean ductwork. <br />Mark stated that would be good as the unit was in disarray. And, if we wanted to <br />retest the unit when all the work was done that he would be glad to come and <br />retest. Ms. Ruthart agreed that retesting needed to be done and she would contact <br />him. Ms. Ruthart thanked Mark for his time and the call was disconnected. Mr. <br />Savage asked if we were talking about ripping out the sheetrock. Ms. Ruthart <br />explained that we are ripping out sheetrock, cabinets, tub, sinks, all of it. Mr. Savage <br />stated that this should take care of what was painted over. Ms. Ruthart stated that <br />hopefully it would take care of it. Mr. Haynes stated that surely the window sills <br />were cleaned with bleach or some other chemical before they were painted. Ms. <br />Ruthart stated that she did not know if that was done. Ms. Cherry stated that bleach <br />would not take care of the mold. Mr. Haynes stated that it was in the report that it <br />would take care of it. Ms. Cherry also asked about another tenant that was moved <br />because of mold. Ms. Ruthart stated that yes Dr. Jones was moved from 107 and <br />there was no mold found behind the sheetrock and hopefully this is what they find <br />in 413. Ms. Cherry asked in the future what would be the procedure for tenants that <br />find mold in their apartment. Ms. Ruthart stated that the PHA would probably call <br />Mark and have the unit tested but if there is a lot of visible mold that the PHA would <br />probably do the same as we did for Ms. Hawkins at 413 and just move them. Ms. <br />Reynerson asked if she could say something and Ms. Ruthart told her she would <br />have to get that approved from Mr. Savage. Mr. Savage allowed Ms. Reynerson to <br />speak and she told the Board that the earlier report stated that the mold was <br />caused by the single pane windows and the gas heat. She also stated that the report <br />said that if the windows weren't changed that the mold would come back. Ms. <br />Ruthart stated that there was nothing about that in this report. Ms. Cherry stated <br />that she was going to bring a copy of the 2010 report so that everyone could see it <br />and we could stop talking about the report that only she has a copy of. Mr. Savage <br />asked her to email the report to him and Ms. Ruthart so that it could be distributed <br />before the next meeting. Ms. Cherry stated that she would email it to Ms. Ruthart <br />for distribution to the other Board Members. Ms. Ruthart asked for more questions <br />or suggestions from the Board as she is welcoming any help with this problem. Ms. <br />