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City Council Benefits Subcommittee
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12/9/2003
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City of Paris Council Benefits Subcommittee <br />December 9, 2003 <br />Page 6 <br />them to come in or go get a doctor excuse. <br />Chairman Guest said that under non civil service employees, you could have a <br />no sick leave policy. City Attorney Schenk said if you want to have a disparate <br />policy. Chairman Guest said there is nothing that they can do to ever bring <br />parity, once a city has adopted civil service employees, short of recalling that in <br />an election. He said they cannot continue to run the city for the rest of their lives <br />trying to bring parity to civil service. City Attorney Schenk said as an example <br />the city made an adjustment to the retirement fund and he will say, you are right, <br />it was because of a different situation. Chairman Guest said and the <br />circumstances that they know now, that might not have happened, especially <br />given the circumstances that they learned last night. City Attorney Schenk said <br />he thought the argument here, but the problem is it creates problems with the <br />merit system. He advised that since he has been in this business, cities in <br />general, try to come up with some means of at least trying to address parity or <br />equity in what is being done. The City Attorney advised that it is not so much <br />as necessarily parity as it is equity because sometimes you cannot equal what they <br />have, but you have something else that is an offsetting or compensating factor. <br />Chairman Guest said that the Emergency Medical Service is not Civil Service, <br />but on the organizational chart the EMS is shown to be under the Fire <br />Department. Fire Chief Grooms advised that they are not civil service. <br />Chairman Guest said that was because they were not in existence when the civil <br />service election was done in 1948. City Attorney Schenk said it is a different <br />system and it is the way the statutes are set up. If a person is a dispatcher or a <br />clerical person in the Police Department, they are not civil service. Chief Louis <br />said that some of them are also firemen and they have joint training. City <br />Attorney Schenk said that by and large the city does not have a level of expertise <br />and he did not think the city has the j oint function that you have when you have <br />them identified separately between the two functions. That is a policy choice. <br />Terry Townsend, Director of Public Works, explained that in his departments, he <br />follows the policy book. Mr. Townsend informed the board that he has taken <br />disciplinary action several times and if he sees any type pattern the employee is <br />
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