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Webb I tell you the problem is money, because, I could go anywhere else and make more money than I can here. I love Paris, and I want to tell you right now, I can go to Dallas or where ever and make from anywhere from 10 to 15 thousand dollars more a year, and it is hard. We have the same problem at Paris Jr. College, it is hard to convince them to stay here. You know, we started a program - grow your on, because we had a problem hiring minorities at Paris Jr. College, which I am in charge of that problem. We have been working on it. They gave them scholarship money. I would go out, would recruit the minority scholarships students. I put them through Paris Jr. College. I graduated them, I just hope they come back. There is no guarantee that they will come back. We have two that came back, out of, I think we have been doing it for, I think, ten years now. I think we had two to come back. Trent Price is one that is working at Paris Jr. College he is one, but you know, we started that program when I was there, and you have to grow you own. If once they go out of the community, you can't convince them, because once they go out, they go to Dallas. They don't pay those firemen anywhere, you know the price and such, and how can you convince one of them to come from Dallas to Paris to make $15,000.00 a year less. They will look at you like you are crazy. Graves Let me say this, what you do is talk to him and say, well you come to a nice community, you are on a waiting list there is Dallas, and probably it will be 10 or 15 years before you move up, you see. Look at the situation they have now on the police force , I mean, some of those officers there have been there for years, but now the opportunity is there for them, so if you can convince those young men, and you can talk to them and show them the possibilities. Money is not all. What are these people doing now. Webb I know it is not all, but you've got to look at our community and look at the makeup, though. The first thing is what is there to do for me. I am a black man in Paris. Graves That is why we are here today is to make it better. Webb Yes, I know we are here to make it better. I am just giving you our concern. I know it is really hard to recruit.