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Burgin The only thing that is different in police and fire is it does not make <br />any difference where they work. They have still got to come in and <br />take the test just like everybody else and everybody is equal and <br />that part is good. Everybody that walks in that testing room is <br />equal. <br />Fisher If you hired someone that is actively on another fire department, <br />you could get their records where they passed the test, would you <br />make them do it again. <br />Burgin I don't make them, the law makes them. <br />Fisher It has to be done by law. <br />Burgin The Civil Service Law says anybody I hire takes that test. <br />Fisher Even though they have taken it and passed it. <br />Burgin He may be a 10 year veteran with the Dallas Fire Department, and <br />that has happened. <br />Graves It is not grand- fathered. <br />Burgin No. <br />Fisher We don't have to take the State Board everywhere we go. I can go <br />in any state in the United States and apply for. <br />Burgin If you want to work, if you are in this department, or that department <br />you have to take their test. If they are Civil Service. <br />Fisher So, whoever comes has to take the test. <br />Burgin That is right. And, the reason. There is one way it is good, but in <br />another way, though, here comes this man in and maybe your son <br />wants to take the test and your son is not certified, your son is equal <br />to that man with 10 years experience, and they both have a shot at <br />the job the. <br />