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Fisher I did not know that, but if is that the law, that is the law. <br />Burgin If your son is not certified and he goes through all the process, we <br />are going to certify him. <br />Fisher Does EMS people take a test. They are not Civil Service. <br />Malone Police and Fire Department. <br />Fisher Does the police and fire have the same test. <br />Burgin They are basically a little different, but they are similar. They are a <br />general aptitude test. <br />Malone They are a general aptitude type tests that are done by companies <br />with, you know, with fair practices. They want it to be a fair test. <br />Armstrong I say that we wind up this meeting. <br />Gray Can I say one more thing. Police Chief, Karl Louis, since he has <br />been the Police Chief has done a great job in hiring. He has hired. <br />He has done a great job with the City. We have the best Police <br />Department in the United States. He has done a great, great job <br />and a great service to this community, and I think that there is a <br />(loom)? To deliver some people to want to stick the Police <br />Department and the Fire Department in the same category. We've <br />got a good Fire Department here, the people down there working. <br />The city has not made a effort, because you do have two <br />departments heads with the city that has nobody black in it. It has <br />not made an effort to hire people on a good standing basis. <br />High That is what I am saying, you need to change what you are doing. <br />Gene Who are you talking about that don't have any minorities. <br />Gray You don't know who they are. <br />Gene I want you to tell me who they are. I know we have no minorities in <br />