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176() been told wrong about what they had said in the certificate, none of the reasons were listed in that section of the Charter as it exist. Mr. Conder said today when he talked to Mr. Haynes about this, he mentioned where it said his address was not on the affidavit, and the committee of petitioners were on it. Mr. Conder said the Charter did not specify that these things have to be on the affidavit. Later on in the conversation with Mr. Haynes he identify the last paragraph in this as his opinion, but if the Charter has never been amended officially to reflect these changes that are set forth in that certificate of insufficiency. Mr. Haynes has rendered an opinion about why this petition would be filed as insufficiency, this is an opinion that comes from a man, first of all, put two things in there that he thought that was in the charter, or advised Ms. Cunningham to put them in there, and it turned out not to be in the Charter, second, he put an opinion in there making a kind of an unofficial Charter amendment that the people have never voted on. Mr. Conder recommended to the Council to consider this when they consider Mr. Haynes's opinion because we have a choice at this point if the Council votes this down, we can drop it or pursue legal action, and he said he was too hardheaded to drop it. Mr. Conder said in 1994 City Election there were 215 votes cast, 1995 there were 525 votes cast making a combined total of 740 votes. This petition was filed on December 18, 1995 bears the signature 757 confirmed registered voters, and if I happened to be a member of this Council, and especially if I had to be a member of this Council who is facing re- election this year, I think it would carry some weight with me. A motion was made by Councilman Fulbright to find the initiative petition invalid and not to terminate or call for the termination of the City Manager. The motion was seconded by Councilman Bell, and carried 6 ayes, 0 nays. City Manager Malone called for consideration of and action on calling an election on the initiative ordinance calling for the termination of the City Manager. City Attorney Haynes advised the Council that the petition is insufficiency and there is no legal reason to call an election, so therefore, he recommended to the Council that an election not be called. A motion was made by Councilman Bell, seconded by Councilman Fulbright to not call an election on the initiative ordinance calling for the termination of the City Manager. The motion carried 6 ayes, 0 nays. Martha Bone, 580 33rd S. E., came forward telling the Council that she hoped that each one of the Councilmen would recognized the fact that there are concerned people, and the Council lit the match with the high water and sewer rate. Ms. Bone said all this mess that we hear and we see, and the absolute evil that is going on, it's not going over the heads of the common people, and she wished that the Council would take into consideration, you know this Charter is sudden the bible when it favors Mr. Haynes and the Council, but you can not get a fair shake when you are just an ordinary voting citizen. Ms. Bone said it has just come into her mind several times, how do you start a riot? She said that she would like to come on City Hall and make each one of the